(6.35 cm.) 4. so i need to cut length of everything down to size. Circuits | Floating Arm Trebuchet : 7 Steps (with Pictures) - Instructables Tie it so that it hangs about 12 inches (2.55.1 cm) from the top of the arm. A regular trebuchet is a better realistic war machine. the next 3 specifically show the dimensions for the short side. I just posted an instructible of our own design, it's a lot beefier, we threw 10-15 lb pumpkins around 300ft, and we actually got 720 lbs in counterweight on it, not including the weight bar or short arm. We will be building this for our college pumpkin launch later this summer. The arm extension is added onto the rest of the arm with three different methods. And it is constructed with 1 X 6s 6 1/4 in. The floating arm trebuchet is a counterweight siege weapon which is a modern variation[1] of the medieval trebuchet. Have someone stand at the back of the trebuchet, next to the arm (To the side) Pretty nice, but you could get a lot more power by lowering your tracks by about a foot. I'm still not sure. The floating arm trebuchet is a counterweight siege weapon which is a modern variation of the medieval trebuchet. We drilled holes in the upright beams perpendicular to the weight bar, directly below where it would hover when the trebuchet is ready to fire, and stuck a piece of 1" steel bar though on each side. On the end of the arm, there will also be a nail, or some sort of strong metal pin. 2. Reply Drill through the entire thing horizontally for the bolt holes. 7 4.5= about 1.6 more on that later. It launches 5 pound pumpkins around 320 feet with 250 pounds of counter weight. jigsaw the one I used here Consider cost and use whatever spare or donated materials you can find. on Introduction. A solid metal ring of any kind would work better. diameter threaded rod, coarse thread 4. The ball did slip out a few times. I have to make a Trebuchet for my Engineering product, and it must be no more in height than 80cm, so what do you think are the best dimensions and ratios for it? anyways Do the same with the bottom of the board, the part that you held against the bending brace. 2 segments of 8 ft (2.4384 m) long 2 X 4 Webof the pivot, mass and inertia of the arm, mass of the projectile, ratio of the pivot/arm's center of gravity, mass of the counterweight, wind speed, and release angle. grab the last 3 ft, 6 in 2 X 4s. Use a door release mechanism from a car for your trigger. NEVER, NEVER LEAN OVER THE ARM!!! Harmonic balancers work well for wheels, and can be pulled from a V8 engine at a junkyard. The arm is split into two parts by the fulcrum. Line up the holes in the arm with the drop gap. Our weights were 18" diameter and 4" thick, weighing 80-90 lbs each. Now, I believe that the width between the bottom of the main track supports is somewhere around 1 ft, 1 inch. Have a nice day http://youtu.be/MS9OepeTELc, Reply MATERIALS LIST: -Lumber (4x4, 2x4, plywood) -Deck Screws (lots of them) -Carriage bolts, nuts, washers -all thread, 1/2", 1ft sections (for sling pins) -Harmonic Balancers ~7" dia (4X) -Steel Shafts, various diameters -Steel pipe, appropriate mating diameters to shafts -Bolts for bushings -Concrete (450+ lbs) and circular forms (OR just use gym weights) -Steel plates -Steel chain, 1900lb test, 3-4ft -Door latch mechanism from a car -Nylon rope (or other strong rope/cable) -Nylon webbing for sling -Axle grease -Welding equipment -Grinder -Drill press -Carpentry tools -Paint (optional). Webi'm working on a quick sketch for a floating arm trebuchet i'm making in an engineering class and need help selecting and using the correct mate tool in the on shape assembly tool. [3] If you 2 hand weights, 10 lbs (4.54 kilos)* So, you need to drill the holes four inches deep into both the arm and the extension. (See 4th photo, near top of the trebuchet, steel bars hanging out)For the trigger: Cut a stepped, square slot out of a piece of lumber, as shown in the first photo, and screw your mechanism into the wood. Shims may be needed to level out the device. I really want to build a floating arm trebuchet, so maybe I'll do that between this year and next and we'll have stuff chucking competitions. multilingual. um will this still work that small? cut about 6 inches from the edge, along the 7 ft. arm. 9. 7. F Building of Vertical Supports F 2x3 28in Build functioning catapult Torsion or trebuchet Maximum volume 227,000 CC Minimum Volume 125,000 CC although I'm still not quite sure how that happened. So, This project is not due until sometime in may, but I will be glad to post pictures. Push them up against the drop channel. 1 segment of 7 ft. long 2 X 4 However, if you want your arm to be longer, just buy this piece longer. 2. Make sure everyone knows you are firing. These are really simple. *It would be better if the two previous 1 X 6 pieces were 2 X 6, I'll explain later. You may want to keep the weights out while you are doing this. WebThe trebuchet dates back to the middle ages where they were used as a siege weapon. they would be horizontal, not angled. I lined up the holes with the dowels and hammered home. slide the bolt the rest of the way through the other hole. 15 in. Look at the second clip of the video for the safety "demonstration" (We accidentally left it in) The first 5 pictures (except the first and second) specifically show the dimensions for the "long" side. 1). WebThe 5DOF Floating Arm Trebuchet This is the floating arm trebuchet with a sling. Line them up carefully and bolt through the arm with carriage bolts to hold them together. (We crashed once during test firing due to this) Be sure to bring bubble levels. 2 segments of 3 ft. (0.9144 m) long 2 X 4 on Step 17, Hey, I definitely encourage you to do this! I've seen some really nice f2k's that have the wheels jump the gap on a ramp, but that would require much more engineering calculations and dynamic tuning than we had time for. [2] This causes the wheel on the axle of the arm to impact the glide track,[2][8] which is usually held steady with strong support beams. Pulling this should make the trigger release. Our sling (not pictured, there is a shot of it in the video) was made of woven nylon web straps. Male sure you always do these cuts on the same side. This is the pin. If this happens, use it on a hill or place two very thin pieces of scrap wood under the base, directly under the drop channels. Projectiles can fly backwards, so keep people and cars AWAY from this area. Also, the box needs to have a top so the weights don't come flying out when it reaches the bottom of the drop. Keep in mind that the rails should be unobstructed, and the gap where the weight bar will go should be small enough that your wheels can easily glide over it. These keep the distance between the two tracks from narrowing or widening. 6 1/4 in. Masses are lead (6x125g) cast from lead roof flashing. They have the same orientation as the main track supports. Trebuchet. Posts : 9,606. I recommend using a pin, then a thick nail, then a screw and finally a pencil to widen the hole for the string. simplest step. Although they need to be lined up, don't worry too much about the squareness of the main track supports to the base, since that will be corrected by diagonal pieces, from the track supports to the track itself. so then the long arm would be 3.5 times that The trebuchet, as is, would probably not be able to launch such a heavy projectile, but I'm not sure. If you have a router, it would be easier to do this by just cutting away the material. Do some experiments, that part is the most fun. The 5/8" CW bolt bent like a taco with only 16 pounds on either side. Hopefully you'll use a wider bolt to begin with The first picture shows this. Line them up so that their 1.5 inch edge is adjacent to the edge of the 2 ft 1 X 6, and so that their 3.5 inch edge is on the outside cut edge of the long 1 X 6. 2. At this point, dry-assemble your trebuchet and ensure everything fits, and that the arm will move correctly. lateral supports This, in turn, changes the width of the drop channels to narrow (BAD) or widen (usually better). Trebuchet. WebThere are no really detailed descriptions of medieval or earlier trebuchets that give, for example, the dimensions or shape of the beam, the ratio of its long arm to its short arm, and so on. Use a bowline. Approx. It should be easy enough to follow. 11 years ago More diagonal supports. [9] These machines and their designers are frequently to be found competing in various recreational events, for example, pumpkin chucking contests.[10][11][12]. (0.635 cm) diameter, 6 in. 17. Although later there are more. Don't judge me) on Introduction. A shorter length sling will work better for lighter projectiles, while a longer length will be better for heavier projectiles. WebLaser Cut Desktop Trebuchet. *look at the last step: improvements. 10 ft. (3.048 m ) of gorilla tape WebStep 2: Prepare the Arm. Again, not critical. Just as a reminderremember to add glue May need to be made thicker 7. Here's some vid of ours. This was done with the safety bars in place, as well as the chain clicked into the trigger. 1 segment of 7 ft. long 2 X 4 There are countless designs that are probably better. So, use the turnbuckle system I mentioned in the introduction. Luckily, It's also pretty simple to make. I'd guess that for throwing oranges, you'd want to be around 5-6 ft high and an 8ft arm, and maybe 50-100 lbs of weight? Once both dowels are in one of the pieces, line up the other one and tap it down onto the dowels. It's been 4 years since I built this in 8th grade (graduated high school by now), but its still lots of fun to set up and launch! 8 years ago. 8 .5 in. Their defining feature is free movement of an axle on the throwing arm,[2] and a linear drop channel for the counterweight. The axle bolt hole would be drilled in the short arm 1.5 feet from the end. Before we start, there were a few problems. 9 years ago here is a link to my Ok, now, the base is constructed using half- lap joinery. Use the order of bolts and washers on either side shown in the first picture (From inside to outside the order is) : drop channel, washer, bolt, washer, CW box wall, Washer, bolt, Bolt, washer, wall of CW box, washer, bolt. To launch such a heavy projectile will require much more weight than the approx. The idea of inserting a trebuchet into the dynamics So bad. the base Keep pulling back on the arm until the counterweight bolt is about 3 inches over the topside of the tracks. Place your projectile in the sling. Share it with us! And back up at least 20 feet when firing (The sides are safest) If you wanted to simply use a board, it might be good to attach two long pieces of wood to the length of the board. From this side, measure 2.5 feet (2 ft, 6 inches) from one end of the tracks. Drill the hole accordingly, so that their position is similar to the one pictured below. (15.24 cm.) Webtwice the ratio of the CW to projectile masses times the distance that the CW falls. And send me some pictures :D. I tried to reply but it wouldnt let me so this is my other option. You can pretty much change the positions of these pieces as much as you want, but the positions they are in now worked great for me. One thick nail. I would still recommend that you read through the list, and buy the lumber as you need it to avoid wasting wood. Tighten the bolt as much as you can. Webfloating arm trebuchet ratios. Measure the distance from the outside of one track support to the outside of another; do the same at the top. http://mort11.org/pumpkinalso be sure to check out the rest of our website, FIRST is a great program for anyone interested in engineering! on Step 15. 5.Next find the center of the folded edges. A pair of wheels allows the arm to roll along We are building one now, it has been lots of fun for the family. If you could find a simulator that would be great, but I never could. You can cut the gap wider up to a certain pint, but the trigger design might limit the amount you can cut it wider. Keep everything tight. So, cut the first twisting brace, on the very front, as wide or narrow as you need it to keep the drop channels straight. Axel for the masses is coathanger wire but ensure the axel never absobs the full impact of the falling masses as it will bend. Then very carefully you will have to put in the safety blocks again and reset the trigger. 7 years ago 6 1/4 in. I just so happen to be in the construction phase of an improved floating arm trebuchet. While a regular trebuchet and floating arm trebuchet both drop a counterweight from only slightly above their pivot points, a FAKA trebuchet drops a counterweight from nearly 2 arm lengths above the ground, giving it more potential energy, thus allowing projectiles to be fired a greater distance. They must be perfectly straight and lined up. The Floating Arm Trebuchet The trebuchet is a medieval gravity powered engine of siege warfare designed to hurl a projectile, such as a heavy stone or a diseased animal, at a distant target such as castles. These go in the front. WebA floating arm trebuchet's arm is mounted on wheels that roll on a track parallel to the ground, with a counterweight that falls vertically, allowing for greater efficiency by increasing the proportion of energy transferred to the projectile. The length of the rope will control what arm angle your sling releases at. And as for tossing a weight that far, you would need to change the ratios on the arm yourself and work with different sling lengths. Punch two holes. A small-scale replica of War Wolf, a counterweight trebuchet that uses a boulder-holding sling at the end of a swinging arm. Awesome trebuchet! This is the only part of the trebcuhet that can vary a lot. on Introduction. You can use a clamp and a tape measure in combination to figure out the right lengths before you cut them. At least i think. This is it. I won't tell you which one was the best yet, although you can probably guess. If you want the diagonal to go exactly 1 foot out and 1 foot down from the corner, you need a more precise measurement, it's something like 1.41 feet. And do lots of testing, with a realllllly long trigger string. Unless one eye bolt cannot support the weight, relax. 3. (Safety blocks explained later) 4 rectangles of 3/4 inch (1.905 cm) thick wood 9.5 X 5.5 in (0.2413 X 0.1397 m) The classic beam ratio for a FAT is 2:1. Yes i am proud to be .and several of the bolts for the 5/8" threaded rod. I made my own (although on a slightly smaller scale. You also need the braided polyester cord and the keychain ring. Angle iron or steel sheet would work. Again, the lengths can be changed slightly, but you want at least 22 feet of length away from the trigger pins when you fire. Also, 1 inch thick wood would would be stronger.Hardware 3. For this step you will need four of the eight 3.5 ft pieces, and the two 6 ft. long pieces. This step is fairly simple. First, you need to know 7. 3. 1. This list of materials is copied directly from my science fair project. It includes what I used at the time. The lumber list is really long, but If the shot releases at the wrong time, adjust the pin angle. Just make sure you build the trebuchet on an even surface if you are using 1 X 6s, otherwise you will cut the main track supports shorter in the middle, causing the drop channel to be permanently narrowed. Attach a 20ft + length of rope to the release mechanism on the door latch. erm If you are going to use a shorter ratio, such as 3.5 : 1, make the short arm pieces shorter. This variation features a drop channel, which allows the counterweight to fall straight down rather than Tilt the diagonal slowly over to the drop channel, keeping the bottom corner on the base and next to the bending brace. These machines are just as dangerous as guns. Remember, though, that if your short arm is shorter you will need fewer bolts. Really, be careful. Before you do that, though, make sure that you are driving them in from the bottom. We think that the downward throws were caused by these two heads. Otherwise, The arm will get puched over and on top of them, slowing down the arm a lot. The floating arm trebuchet loses the range advantage over regular trebuchet at very large scales, because the difficulty in construction of the drop channel and axle increases with size. You should use 2 X 6s, or something stronger than a 1 x 6. This tape will further reinforce the areas where the string will go through. Main track supports rubber mallet 22. still thinking. Platform is pine. Mark this height. This was a bit too heavy as we had to load each weight manually to fire our trebuchet. (8TH picture) Then tape them in place. You also might want to improve the pin system-at least make sure your pin is smooth. Then, obviously, drive in the screws. Reply We'd have done much better with something like this. Then drive 3 through the base and into the bottom of the drop channel. thank you, Reply On the other end of the sling, tie another rope that goes to the loop on the end of the arm. 9 years ago X 3.5 in. circular saw (The one I used here) OR miter saw AND table saw Use a bowline knot. The first recorded use of traction trebuchets appeared in ancient China and were probably used by the Mohists ps-mohist are a scientific lead version of the chinese What is the floating arm Trebuchet, and how does it work? Okay now you need to cut the axle. Next we have the drop channel supports. (0.889 m) long 2 X 6 This one worked, but it was just a bit heavy, small and inflexible. I had no idea what the problem was at first. On the arm, drill a hole for an eye bolt, and use a washer on both ends. 4 rectangles of 3/4 inch (1.905 cm) thick wood 9.5 X 9 in. 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